Kansas Law Enforcement Officers Memorial
Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes
September 21, 2001, 10:00 a.m.
Kansas Historical Society, Topeka, Kansas
Present at the September 21, 2001 meeting were committee members: Vice-chairman
Bill Miskell, Department of Corrections; Colonel Don Brownlee, KHP;
Director Ed Pavey, KLETC; Captain Ken Gorman, Fraternal Order of Police;
Kenneth Roy, Kansas Association of Chiefs of Police; Steve Starr, Attorney
General’s Office; Trooper J. L. Riedel, Kansas Troopers’
Association, and Matt Veatch, Kansas Historical Society. Marilyn
Goodheart, President, Kansas COPS also attended the meeting.
1. Introductions
1.1. Committee members introduced themselves for the benefit of Ms.
Goodheart.
2. Approval of minutes
2.1. Mr. Veatch distributed copies of the June 22, 2001 meeting minutes.
2.2. Capt. Gorman moved approval of the minutes as submitted, Mr. Starr
seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously.
3. Financial report
3.1. Mr. Veatch distributed the financial report detailing activity
during the June-August 2001 period.
3.2. Director Pavey moved approval of the financial report as submitted,
Col. Brownlee seconded, and the motion carried.
4. Potential additions to the memorial
4.1. Will C. Reed and Charles F. Artz
4.1.1. Mr. Veatch distributed Wichita Eagle newspaper articles describing
the 1920 shooting deaths of Officers Artz and Reed, both of whom were
special agents for the Rock Island Railroad in the Wichita area.
4.1.1.1. He reminded the group that Vice-chair Miskell originally had
discovered Reed’s death while looking at the inmate file of a
man who was an accomplice to Officer Reed’s murder.
4.1.1.2. Mr. Veatch reported that while performing research on Officer
Reed’s death he had stumbled across the report of Officer Artz’s
death.
4.1.2. Committee members discussed the status of railroad special agents
and agreed that they were law enforcement officers who could be eligible
for inclusion on the memorial.
4.1.3. Vice-chair Miskell asked the committee whether they believed
additional evidence was needed before voting on adding Reed and Artz
to the memorial.
4.1.4. Committee members expressed their satisfaction with the evidence
at hand, although Mr. Veatch will endeavor to gather additional information
to add details to the description of the circumstances of death.
4.1.5. Capt. Gorman moved to add Officers Will C. Reed and Charles F.
Artz to the Law Enforcement Memorial at the 2002 ceremony. Director
Pavey seconded the motion and it was approved unanimously.
4.2. Charles Delbert Meeks
4.2.1. Mr. Starr reported that he had been unable to get in touch with
either Mrs. Weeks or the ex-chief of police of Derby to discuss the
circumstances of Meeks death.
4.2.2. Starr indicated that the committee had, at its June 22, 2001
meeting, expressed questions about whether Detective Meeks’ death
in a traffic accident while traveling in his personal vehicle to a Kansas
Police Officers Association meeting on May 9, 1976 made him eligible
for inclusion on the memorial.
4.2.3. The group discussed the issue again and agreed that, pending
the production of additional evidence, Detective Marks’ nomination
for inclusion on the memorial should be tabled.
4.3. Ted Eaton, Bob Hubbard, Roland Wilcox
4.3.1. Capt. Gorman briefly described the circumstances surrounding
the deaths of Eaton, Hubbard, and Wilcox in the Oklahoma panhandle in
1888 (Oklahoma was still Indian Territory at the time).
4.3.2. The three apparently were Kansans who had been deputized by Stevens
County, KS Sheriff John Cross before going into Indian Territory as
part of an effort to arrest City Marshal Robinson of Hugoton, KS.
4.3.3. Cross, Eaton, Hubbard, and Wilcox all were killed by Robinson
and his men but only Cross’ name appears on the Kansas memorial.
4.3.4. Mr. Veatch will conduct additional research on the incident and
report his findings at the December 2001 meeting.
5. Memorial maintenance and repairs
5.1. Vice-chair Miskell reported that the Division of Facilities Management
indicated that the memorial likely will be dismantled by Feb. 2002 and
will be reassembled at an undetermined time in the distant future.
5.1.1. He commented that there is no guarantee that the memorial will
be reassembled in its existing location.
5.1.2. Capt. Gorman pointed out that the statute for the memorial specifies
that the memorial be located in the northeast quadrant of the statehouse
grounds.
5.1.2.1. Vice-chair Miskell observed that a statutory change could be
necessary.
5.1.3. Vice-chair Miskell also commented that when the memorial is reassembled
it possibly would be located near a new firefighters' memorial on the
statehouse grounds.
5.1.3.1. Col. Brownlee observed that during the effort to get a firefighters’
memorial there had been opinions expressed arguing for the exclusion
of all memorials on statehouse grounds.
5.1.3.2. Vice-chair Miskell suggested that the committee carefully monitor
the construction process and related developments.
5.2. Director Pavey inquired about the logistics for next year's ceremony
considering the memorial will be in a disassembled state in May 2002.
5.2.1. Capt. Gorman and Vice-chair Miskell suggested that the ceremony
could be held on the south side of the capitol with the wreath being
laid at the base of the flagpole.
5.2.2. Committee members believed this to be a workable plan.
5.3. Vice-chair Miskell commented that the committee needed to use the
next few years as an opportunity to raise funds for repair and expansion
of the memorial.
5.3.1. Director Pavey commented that it would be hard to raise funds
when the future status of the memorial remains in doubt.
5.3.2. Col. Brownlee distributed a copy of a proposed federal bill that
would provide grants of up to $150,000 for the construction of public
safety memorials.
5.3.2.1. He suggested that the committee investigate the grants as a
potential funding source for repair and expansion of the existing memorial
or perhaps even the construction of a new memorial.
5.3.2.2. Col. Brownlee, in response to questions from committee members,
said he believed the legislation had passed but he was not sure of this.
5.3.2.2.1. Capt. Gorman used his cell phone to call someone with knowledge
of pending federal legislation and discovered that the bill had been
reported out of committee and currently was before the full Congress.
5.3.2.3. Director Pavey and Col. Brownlee both suggested that if the
legislation passed, it might make sense for the committee to pursue
a grant for the construction of a new memorial, especially in light
of the impending disassembly during statehouse construction and the
need for major repairs and expansion.
5.3.2.4. Vice-chair Miskell suggested that the committee stay in contact
with members of the Kansas congressional delegation regarding the legislation.
5.3.2.4.1. Col. Brownlee volunteered to write a letter to the members
of the delegation urging their support of the bill.
5.3.2.4.2. Capt. Gorman said he also would make personal contact with
delegation members and staffers.
6. Kansas COPS
6.1. Ms. Goodheart reported that Kansas COPS held its first meeting
on July 14, 2001.
6.1.1. Chairman Chuck Sexson spoke at the meeting and outlined plans
for cooperation between the Law Enforcement Memorial Advisory Committee
and Kansas COPS.
6.1.2. Ms. Goodheart indicated that she asked meeting attendees for
comments on the 2001 memorial ceremony.
6.1.2.1. Most felt it was a very meaningful service.
6.1.2.2. They liked the choice of music and appreciated the luncheon
following the event.
6.1.2.3. Director Pavey (who had missed the June 22, 2001 meeting during
which the committee critiqued the memorial ceremony) asked what other
committee members thought about the reception in the governor's office
prior to the memorial ceremony.
6.1.2.3.1. Vice-chair Miskell commented that the committee had decided
at the June meeting that it would make sense to hold the reception in
another (larger) room at the statehouse, possibly to include survivors
in the reception, and to have the governor stop by shortly before the
ceremony.
6.1.2.4. Director Pavey also asked about the timing of the ceremony
in 2002.
6.1.2.4.1. Vice-chair Miskell stated that the committee had agreed to
move the ceremony back to a date in May.
6.1.2.5. Ms. Goodheart asked if she could bring a COPS flag to the ceremony.
6.1.2.5.1. The committee thought this would be fine.
6.1.2.6. Vice-chair Miskell asked Ms. Goodheart whether Kansas COPS
would be willing to develop strategies for recruiting more survivors
to attend the ceremony.
6.1.2.6.1. Ms. Goodheart indicated that she would raise the issue with
her fellow Kansas COPS members.
6.1.2.6.2. Capt. Gorman suggested a mailing regarding the ceremony to
the COPS mailing list.
6.1.2.6.2.1. Ms. Goodheart thought this might be possible.
6.1.3. Director Pavey asked for Marilyn's participation in a conference
session he planned to sponsor on handling officers killed in the line
of duty. She agreed.
6.2. Ms. Goodheart expressed her appreciation to the committee for inviting
her to attend committee meetings.
7. Fund raising
7.1. Capt. Gorman asked whether the committee should consider fund raising
strategies.
7.2. Director Pavey again expressed his opinion that it would be difficult
to raise funds without a clear plan for the memorial.
7.2.1. He did suggest that committee members could alert law enforcement
associations to the fact that the memorial would be disassembled and
that efforts would be getting underway to raise funds to repair, expand,
and/or reconstruct the memorial.
7.2.2. Director Pavey asked Mr. Veatch to get the meeting minutes out
as soon as possible to facilitate this effort.
7.3. Capt. Gorman suggested that the committee devote a considerable
portion of the December meeting to a discussion of fund raising strategies.
7.3.1. Vice-chair Miskell agreed to put it on the agenda.
8. New business
8.1. Col. Brownlee reminded committee members of the remembrance ceremony
for World Trade Center and Pentagon victims to be held at the statehouse
today at noon.
8.2. Col. Brownlee also reported that Sedgwick County fire fighters
did not receive notice of the 2001 LEM ceremony and they asked him if
the committee could send them a notice next year.
8.2.1. Committee members readily agreed to the request.
8.3. Date of 2002 ceremony
8.3.1. The committee discussed May 3rd and May 24th as possible dates.
8.3.2. A final decision will be made at the December 2001 meeting.
9. Next meeting: December 7, 2001,
Attorney General’s Office, Memorial Hall, 2nd Floor, 10th and
Jackson, Topeka, Kansas.
10. The meeting adjourned at 11:15 a.m. Matt Veatch recorded the minutes.
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